Hoppe Automatic Tongue Lock – Steps to take before ordering your replacement lock.
Step #1 – Find Your Backset
Step #2 – Find Your Dead Bolt Throw
Measure your existing Automatic Tongue lock and determine the “Back Set”. The back set is the measurement of the distance from the edge of your door to the center of the handle. The only backsets available from Hoppe are:
You will need to know the “Deadbolt Throw” distance. This is the measurement of how far the deadbolt extends out of the 3 point mortise lock. Open the door, Activate the lock by lifting upward on the handle. Turn the thumb turn knob and extend the deadbolt. Hoppe only has (2) deadbolt options to choose from.
Once you know the “Backset” and “Deadbolt Throw”, You should be able to find the proper Hoppe Automatic Tongue Lock below
Below are the available options for Hoppe AutomaticTongue Locks. Please select your lock below and click on the link, you will be taken to the product page of the lock you have selected. There you can read the specifications and purchase your lock replacement. Locks are separated into available backsets first, then by deadbolt throw measurements.
Hoppe Tongue lock. This lock only locks at the deadbolt and Tongue. No bottom shootbolt.
There are Only Tongue locking points on the door edge between the deadbolt and the tongue.
Hoppe Automatic Tongue Locks & Top Extensions,
Part Number | Lock Part | Upper Locking Point | Extension Length Overall | Top Extension + Gear = Door Panel Height | Roller & Release Trigger Location from bottom of door up, If HH is 36″ ALTERNATE LP #1 |
8778579 | Top Extension | Tongue | 1045mm – 41 1/8″ | Use For Door Panel Heights Between 71 1/16″ – 78 1/4″ | Roller release trigger @ 42 1/2″ / Upper Tongue lock point @ 64 3/4″ |
8778583 | Top Extension | Tongue | 1220mm – 48″ | Use For Door Panel Heights Between 71 1/16″ – 85 5/8″ | Roller release trigger @ 42 1/2″ / Upper Tongue lock point @ 72 9/16″ |
8778587 | Top Extension | Tongue | 1395mm –54 15/16″ | Use For Door Panel Heights Between 79 1/8″ – 92 1/2″ | Roller release trigger @ 42 1/2″ / Upper Tongue lock point @ 80 5/8″ |
8778591 | Top Extension | Tongue | 1570mm –61 13/16″ | Use For Door Panel Heights Between 79 1/8″ – 99 7/16″ | Roller release trigger @ 42 1/2″ / Upper Tongue lock point @ 86 9/16″ |
8778595 | Top Extension | Tongue | 1745mm-68 11/16″ | Use For Door Panel Heights Between 88 3/4″ – 106 5/16″ | Roller release trigger @ 42 1/2″ / Upper Tongue lock point @ 86 9/16″ |
8778607 | Top Extension | Tongue | 2270mm – 89 3/8″ | Use For Door Panel Heights Between 104 1/2″ – 126 15/16″ | Roller release trigger @ 42 1/2″ / Upper Tongue lock point @ 99″ |
Part Number | Lock Part | Locking Point | Backset | Dead Bolt Throw | Roller Lock Point From Bottom of Door Up |
8778271 | Gear | Tongue | 35mm (1.38) | 14mm – 1/2″ | Lower Tongue @ 9 9/16″ up from bottom of door |
8778303 | Gear | Tongue | 45mm (1.77) | 14mm – 1/2″ | Lower Tongue @ 9 9/16″ up from bottom of door |
8778247 | Gear | Tongue | 35mm (1.38) | 25.4mm – 1″ | Lower Tongue @ 9 9/16″ up from bottom of door |
8778291 | Gear | Tongue | 45mm (1.77) | 25.4mm – 1″ | Lower Tongue @ 9 9/16″ up from bottom of door |
8778267 | Gear | Tongue | 35mm (1.38) | 14mm – 1/2″ | Lower Tongue @ 6 5/16″ up from bottom of door |
8778299 | Gear | Tongue | 45mm (1.77) | 14mm – 1/2″ | Lower Tongue @ 6 5/16″ up from bottom of door |
8778243 | Gear | Tongue | 35mm (1.38) | 25.4mm – 1″ | Lower Tongue @ 6 5/16″ up from bottom of door |
8778287 | Gear | Tongue | 45mm (1.77) | 25.4mm – 1″ | Lower Tongue @ 6 5/16″ up from bottom of door |
One of the most common mistakes customers make when buying a replacement tongue lock is simply by not choosing the correct measurement. If you take a little time and measure the lock correctly, you should be able to find the exact lock that you need. Another mistake that is commonly make is that customers buy a single point lock to repair a broken multipoint lock. This will not work since the 2 lock types are not the same.
A multipoint lock has an internal slide bar that transfers motion onto connected lock extensions while a single point lock does not. A single point lock does not work as a multipoint gearbox replacement. Below are some indications that your lock may have internal parts that are broken.
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Door is stuck or jammed and cannot be opened
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Lever handle is sagging or drooping and not returning to the horizontal rest position after the door has been opened.
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Lock seems to be stripped when opening the door. internal gear teeth are slipping and not disengaging the lock points.
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Lock makes a crunchy noise when opening or locking the door.
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Unable to activate the deadbolt after lifting up on the handle.